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Measures, Rights, Ballot Issues...OH MY!

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Measures, Rights, Ballot Issues...OH MY!

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Voters in Colorado and South Dakota on Tuesday rejected anti-abortion initiatives, while Michigan approved medical marijuana and Massachusetts decriminalized the possession of an ounce or less of marijuana, according to NBC projections.

Those results were among the first from 153 state measures across the country. Some of the nation's most divisive social issues — gay marriage, abortion and affirmative action — went before voters as 36 states.

The most momentous was a proposed constitutional amendment in California that would limit marriage to heterosexual couples. Results were not yet available on that vote.In Washington, voters were deciding whether to join Oregon as the only states offering terminally ill people the option of physician-assisted suicide. Massachusetts had three distinctive measures on its ballot — to ban dog racing, ease marijuana laws and scrap the state income tax.

Massachusetts voters rejected killing the state tax. Critics of the proposal had said the cuts would ripple state services, drive up property taxes, harm the state's credit rating and scare away business.

On same-sex marriage and affirmative action — issues on which the public is deeply divided — Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain had rarely made proactive comments during their presidential campaigns. Abortion also had seemed like an uncomfortable topic for them at times, although Obama made clear he supports abortion rights and McCain said he would like to ban most abortions.

But in a half-dozen states, those three issues were front and center.

Same-sex marriage
Florida, Arizona and California have constitutional amendments on their ballots that would limit marriage to a man and a woman. Twenty-seven states have previously approved such amendments, but none were in California's situation — with same-sex marriage legal since a state Supreme Court decision in May. Only Massachusetts and California allow same-sex weddings, while gay couples are expected to begin marrying this month in Connecticut. Several states allow civil unions. California's opposing sides together raised about $70 million, much of it from out of state, to wage their campaigns. The outcome, either way, will have a huge impact on prospects for spreading same-sex marriage to the 47 states that do not allow it.

The rival camps view the California vote in epic terms, with the outcome of Proposition 8 having enormous influence on prospects for same-sex marriage rights in other states.

"If we lose California, if they defeat the marriage amendment, I'm afraid that the culture war is over and Christians have lost," said Donald Wildmon, founder of the American Family Association. "California is a big dam, holding back the flood — and if you take down the dam in California, it's going to flood 49 other states."

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Voters in Colorado and South Dakota on Tuesday rejected anti-abortion initiatives, Michigan approved medical marijuana and Massachusetts decriminalized the possession of an ounce or less of marijuana, according to NBC projections.

In Florida, voters agreed to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Those results were among the first from 153 state measures across the country. Some of the nation's most divisive social issues — gay marriage, abortion and affirmative action — went before voters as 36 states.The most momentous was a proposed constitutional amendment in California that would limit marriage to heterosexual couples. Results were not yet available on that vote.

In Washington, voters were deciding whether to join Oregon as the only states offering terminally ill people the option of physician-assisted suicide. Massachusetts had three distinctive measures on its ballot — to ban dog racing, ease marijuana laws and scrap the state income tax.

Massachusetts voters rejected killing the state tax. Critics of the proposal had said the cuts would ripple state services, drive up property taxes, harm the state's credit rating and scare away business.

On same-sex marriage and affirmative action — issues on which the public is deeply divided — Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain had rarely made proactive comments during their presidential campaigns. Abortion also had seemed like an uncomfortable topic for them at times, although Obama made clear he supports abortion rights and McCain said he would like to ban most abortions.

But in a half-dozen states, those three issues were front and center.

Same-sex marriage
Arizona and California also had constitutional amendments on their ballots that would limit marriage to a man and a woman.

Florida on Tuesday joined 27 other states that previously approved such amendments, but none were in California's situation — with same-sex marriage legal since a state Supreme Court decision in May. Only Massachusetts and California allow same-sex weddings, while gay couples are expected to begin marrying this month in Connecticut. Several states allow civil unions. California's opposing sides together raised about $70 million, much of it from out of state, to wage their campaigns. The outcome, either way, will have a huge impact on prospects for spreading same-sex marriage to the 47 states that do not allow it.

The rival camps view the California vote in epic terms, with the outcome of Proposition 8 having enormous influence on prospects for same-sex marriage rights in other states.

"If we lose California, if they defeat the marriage amendment, I'm afraid that the culture war is over and Christians have lost," said Donald Wildmon, founder of the American Family Association. "California is a big dam, holding back the flood — and if you take down the dam in California, it's going to flood 49 other states."Obama is expected to win easily in California, but the vote on Proposition 8 is expected to be close. Of keen interest to both sides is how churchgoing black and Hispanic voters — in general a pro-Obama constituency — will vote on the ballot measure.

According to exit polls, blacks were far more likely than whites or Hispanics to support the ban. Age also was a key factor — the exit polls showed voters under 30 opposing the ban by a 2-to-1 margin, while most voters 60 and older supported the ban.

Both Obama and McCain say they oppose same-sex marriage. But Obama, unlike McCain, opposes Proposition 8 and endorses the concept of broader rights for same-sex couples.

Gay rights also is an issue in Arkansas, where a ballot measure would prohibit unmarried couples from adopting or being foster parents. Conservatives backing the idea say it's aimed at same-sex couples, who are able to adopt and be foster parents in most states.

Abortion rights
In South Dakota, voters defeated an initiative to ban abortion except in cases of rape, incest and serious health threat to the mother. A tougher law without the rape and incest exceptions was defeated in 2006.

Colorado voters defeated a "personhood" amendment that would have defined human life as beginning at fertilization. The ballot did not explicitly mention abortion, but activists on both sides in the campaign viewed it as a blunt challenge to abortion rights.

Abortion-rights activists contended that, if approved, it would have potentially led to the banning of certain types of birth control.

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here in argentina marijuana is legal and gay marriage too
so, take a place in usa who is doing the same and just add more meal and more football and u can imagine argentina


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jesusofrage":39lcplrw wrote:
here in argentina marijuana is legal and gay marriage too
so, take a place in usa who is doing the same and just add more meal and more football and u can imagine argentina

ok wow.

I think gay marriage should be legalized here, as for pot....how about a big NO?

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jesusofrage":1k5y83kl wrote:
here in argentina marijuana is legal and marriage too
so, take a place in usa who is doing the same and just add more meal and more football and u can imagine argentina

ok wow.

I think marriage should be legalized here, as for pot....how about a big NO?

tell'em
do something


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I voted for gay marriage, and it's still not legal.

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